Good you mentioned, that you used Ricoh instead of a Alphamount, I was just wondering and replying, that what happened to the colors and details with these, kind of a grey and they miss details and sharpness. :D #2 picture might have something in it.

Hi Dave,

These are some nice photos that certainly have 'something' about them (no 2) especially, but as Keijog says they look a little flat and de-saturated. Was that the deliberate effect? Sort of gives it a muted film look.

Andrew

Thanks for your comments. I did not deliberately reduce the colors but I did use the "Shadow/Highlight" fixer tool in PhotoShop. Particularly in number 2. The foliage on the left would have been lost in the dark and the sky was blow out. To me, It looks better this way. Blame me, not the camera. It was a deliberate effect. I'll look for a photo with more contrast to attach. Carl, perhaps you have one.

Dave

I like the muted color effect. It really gives the feeling of the woods in Virginia.

I'm glad you like them Barbara, thanks.

I have attached three more that were taken in the same woods. I choose these because they were taken with the same camera but have a little more snap to them. These all happen to be close ups but they were taken with same lens as the others. This camera only has one fixed lens.

I work from the RAW and get them the way I remember it looking to me. I notice that the JPG images produced by the camera tend to have more saturated color and contrast. I erased all of those from my memory card. Too bad, it would have been an interesting comparison.

Hi Dave,

thanks for explaining the editing done in the original images. I like these images slightly better as the added 'snap' makes them stand out a bit more. Cheers for sharing.

Andrew

I went ahead and moved this to the all brands forum :).

Looks like you are still going crazy with this cam, hehe, good! On your saturation for your first set of images, the greens do look a bit grey, what do you have the saturation set at in camera?

Carl

Carl and gang,

I just reconverted my color from the DNG file. This time I used PS only to make a JPG. I made NO other conversions and colors looked well saturated to me. However when I sent the image to flicker and look at on the "Preview Comment" I can see that it looks washed out.

I'm not sure how to answer Carl's question about the saturation setting on mt GX200 so I captured my Meta data and attached it it below the photo.
I had the color temperature set to out doors. If that answers you question?

Carl, I'm going to directly email you with the same images attached so you can see what I'm talking about. The photo below looks just as washed out as the one above, to me. I made no changes this time.

DateTimeOriginal: 2008:08:13 09:49:50
ISO: 64
Aperture: 5.7
ShutterSpeed: 1/60
FocalLength: 6.9 mm
Make: RICOH
Model: RICOH GX200
ImageSize: 4096x3014
ExposureCompensation: 0
ExifToolVersion: 7.32
FileName: R0010300.DNG
Directory: /Users/test/Desktop/Dng import
FileSize: 18 MB
FileModifyDate: 2008:08:13 09:49:50
FileType: DNG
MIMEType: image/x-raw
ExifByteOrder: Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
ImageDescription:
Make: RICOH
Model: RICOH GX200
Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
XResolution: 72
YResolution: 72
ResolutionUnit: inches
ModifyDate: 2008:08:13 09:49:50
SubfileType: Full-resolution Image
ImageWidth: 4096
ImageHeight: 3014
BitsPerSample: 12
Compression: Uncompressed
PhotometricInterpretation: Color Filter Array
StripOffsets: 98304
SamplesPerPixel: 1
RowsPerStrip: 3014
StripByteCounts: 18518016
PlanarConfiguration: Chunky
CFARepeatPatternDim: 2 2
CFAPattern2: 1 0 2 1
CFAPlaneColor: Red,Green,Blue
CFALayout: Rectangular
BlackLevelRepeatDim: 1 1
BlackLevel: 0
WhiteLevel: 4095
DefaultScale: 1 1
DefaultCropOrigin: 7 7
DefaultCropSize: 4000 3000
BayerGreenSplit: 0
AntiAliasStrength: 1
Copyright: (C) by RICOH GX200 User
ExposureTime: 1/60
FNumber: 5.7
ExposureProgram: Manual
ISO: 64
DateTimeOriginal: 2008:08:13 09:49:50
CreateDate: 2008:08:13 09:49:50
ApertureValue: 5.7
BrightnessValue: 7.2
ExposureCompensation: 0
MaxApertureValue: 2.4
MeteringMode: Spot
LightSource: Daylight
Flash: Off
FocalLength: 6.9 mm
MakerNoteType: Rdc
MakerNoteVersion: Rev0110
RicohImageWidth: 4000
RicohImageHeight: 3000
RicohDate: 2008:08:13 09:49:40
PreviewImageStart: 6244
PreviewImageLength: 1280
FlashMode: Off
Macro: Off
WhiteBalance: Daylight
ISOSetting: 64
Saturation: Unknown (7)
RicohDateTime1: 2008:06:24
RicohDateTime2: 2008:07:18
UserComment:
ColorSpace: sRGB
ExposureMode: Manual
SceneCaptureType: Standard
Sharpness: Normal
DNGVersion: 1 0 0 0
DNGBackwardVersion: 1 0 0 0
UniqueCameraModel: RICOH GX200
ColorMatrix1: 1.0046 -0.433 0.0347 -0.3572 1.1262 0.2645 -0.0564 0.1132 0.5608
ColorMatrix2: 0.8228 -0.2425 -0.0657 -0.4568 1.2501 0.2308 -0.1124 0.1566 0.5543
AnalogBalance: 1 1 1
AsShotNeutral: 0.520833 1 0.50505
BaselineExposure: -0.5
BaselineNoise: 4
BaselineSharpness: 1.33
LinearResponseLimit: 1
DNGLensInfo: 5.1-15.3mm f/inf-inf
MakerNoteSafety: Unsafe
CalibrationIlluminant1: Standard Light A
CalibrationIlluminant2: D65
Aperture: 5.7
CFAPattern: [Green,Red][Blue,Green]
ImageSize: 4096x3014
PreviewImage: (Binary data 1280 bytes, use -b option to extract)
ShutterSpeed: 1/60
FocalLength35efl: 6.9 mm
LightValue: 11.6

Below is the JGP image produced by the camera. Nothing between the camera and your screen except Flickr. The colors looked too saturated when viewed on the SD memory chip but I think Flicker calmed them down just enough.

Hi Dave,

This shot looks a lot better. It seems as if Flickr is doing something a little odd to the RAW images. The colours in the last image look much more natural and believable.

Out of interest do you apply any colour profiles to your images?

Andrew

Flicker only takes JPG images as far as I know. Because I was working with RAW I was converting the images from RAW to TIFF and importing them into PS where Adobe RGB 1998 color space would be assigned to it. My screen is calibrated and it looks good to me but when Flicker is done with it the colors are muted.

Thank you so much! I think this must be the problem. Flicker does not handle Adobe RGB well.

BTW I love this little camera but dealing with the Ricoh Support has been horrible! I can't even perform the registration. They give you a support number but ask for a credit card number prior to letting you talk to a human. They provide an on-line registration that does not include my model number nor will it accept my serial number. I hope it does not break within the one year warranty period.

Dave

Used Image Ready for the first time. Uploaded it to flicker and downloaded to AMW.

So is this how the big boys do it?!?

Looks good on my screen! So much to learn but I'm having fun.

Dave